Nov 24, 2006, 07:01 PM // 19:01
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#21
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: 667 Neighbour of the Beast
Guild: Ttgr
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Detraya fullvear
sure, because putting ss on a pet that cant stop attacking is a horriable idea!
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This is a great idea. Casting SS on Flesh Golems or Pets with Reckless Haste or blind. They just can't stop attacking, so draw the Golem into a crowd and watch all the numbers fly!
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Nov 24, 2006, 07:57 PM // 19:57
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#22
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Master of Beasts
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Ottawa, Canada
Guild: Servants of Fortuna [SoF]
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Craze Horse
Now with paragons there are certain shouts such as burning anthem or go for the eyes that are triggered with an attack skill.
Bears are the only pets that technically use an attack skill...
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't there be a situational advantage with a bear as a pet over any other pet? Comments appreciated
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Correct, bears using Brutal Mauling do trigger Anthem of Flame.
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Originally Posted by Reikai
it doesn't trigger. Its been tested.
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Umm, it did when testing was done. Brutal Mauling triggers any paragon skill that triggers on attack skills, or at least it did. Haven't checked today, but assuming it hasn't changed, it does work.
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Originally Posted by Anger Problems
You could fix its attack speed with an enemy Mesmer using Soothing Images.
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Also true, but hard to arrange
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Originally Posted by LightningHell
Soothing Images only prevents the building of adrenaline.
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Precisely, and testing has shown that Brutal Mauling is an adrenaline skill, with a 4 adrenaline cost. Hence why the bear uses it every fourth swing - a bear in the presence of Infuriating Heat for example uses it every second swing, dropping DPS even further.
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Originally Posted by Jay Shrine
What about the Jahai Rat? that uses a skill so it cant be diseased,dno if they use it often or if its just a sort of power they mantain,im not that far into Nightfall,can someone check it out?
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This is pretty much accepted to be the same type of rumour as the poisonous spider rumour. I have had a Jahai rat for a while now myself to observe it, and have never seen it use a skill, and it has been tested by regular wiki users. While you cannot prove something false by not observing it (it may just be really rare) no documentation of it ever having occurred exists. If I said that sometimes, if you spin around fast, the moon looks like a big bagel it would be just as untestable - you could do it for thousands of nights with no success, and I could just reply that it is REALLY uncommon.
As to the OP's title statement, yes, as a result of this ability, the bear is the best pet in a very narrow sense, for some situations. It however is also the worst in some ways.
Some have become very semantic, saying that the attack rate of the bear is no different, and that it is only the DPS that suffers. I would like to respond to that by asking them to count the number of attacks that a bear performs - it may be equally semantic, but if every 4th attack is a slow Brutal Mauling, the number of attacks actually performed is decreased over time, thus attack rate, being defined as attacks/unit time is in fact lower, provided the bear is building adrenaline and using its skill.
Last edited by Epinephrine; Nov 24, 2006 at 08:07 PM // 20:07..
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Nov 28, 2006, 01:57 PM // 13:57
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#23
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Krytan Explorer
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What amazes me is that they STILL haven't removed the brutal mauling skill-it's utterly useless and only hinders it.
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Dec 16, 2006, 11:35 PM // 23:35
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#24
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Banned
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Europe
Guild: Guardians Of Eternal Sands [GoeS]
Profession: W/
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bump because my other thread got closed.
NEW TOPIC: PLEASE CHANGE BEARS, THEY NEED TO BE LIKE ALL OTHER PETS
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Dec 21, 2006, 04:23 PM // 16:23
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#25
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: 667 Neighbour of the Beast
Guild: Ttgr
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Not sure if this is confirmed or not, but another potential advantage of Bears is that fact that they are the largest pet and thus, could be more effective at body blocking.
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Dec 22, 2006, 09:34 AM // 09:34
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#26
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Desert Nomad
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[skill]"Go for the Eyes!"[/skill]
Read the description. It's the next attack, not attack skill. When this skill is activated, the next attack will be affected and the skill will end. With that being said, a Bear's brutal mauling isn't needed for this skill to work, any pet will do.
As for this actually making a pet hit criticals, didn't seem to work when I tried it, but it was a quick test.
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Dec 28, 2006, 09:25 PM // 21:25
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#27
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Master of Beasts
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Ottawa, Canada
Guild: Servants of Fortuna [SoF]
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cathode_Reborn
[skill]"Go for the Eyes!"[/skill]
Read the description. It's the next attack, not attack skill. When this skill is activated, the next attack will be affected and the skill will end. With that being said, a Bear's brutal mauling isn't needed for this skill to work, any pet will do.
As for this actually making a pet hit criticals, didn't seem to work when I tried it, but it was a quick test.
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Read [skill]Anthem of Flame[/skill], or [skill]Anthem of Envy[/skill], or [skill]Crippling Anthem[/skill].
And the reason the skill didn't seem to make pets critical is that pet criticals don't work like other crits. They don't do max damage * 1.4142, they just do their damage *1.4142, so it's not immediately obvious, unless you graph many of them.
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